Well, I'm officially SUV shopping

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  1. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    Since yesterday was my birthday, I have officially reached the earliest age to collect social security (62), and my checks will begin rolling in next month. As a result, I decided to give my 10 year old Lexus SUV to my daughter and go get me something new.

    I'm all over the scale with what I want, or how much I want to spend. All I know is this car hopefully will last me about 8-12 years, so I want something safe and comfortable, and able to fit my 6'2", 250 lb arse in it.

    First stop last Saturday was back to my Lexus dealership. I was hoping to get into the new NX suv, but just too darn small for me. Even the Chinese salesman said, "you too big, car too small!" I then jumped into the new familiar RX suv, and of course, it was very nice and familiar, since that is what I already have. Problem is only the 2017 are out now, and the 2018 will not come out until October, so the price is close to $50K. I was happy to know that regular gas is adequate for the 6 cylinder suv.

    I then went to the Mercedes dealership. Between the hard to understand Asian salesman, and the 9+ different variations of suv's, I became dizzy. They had them from $35K to $299K, all over the place. My butt would not fit in the $35k model, so the cheapest one I fit comfortably was $59K. Car rode nice, but it was not very comfortable. All their cars use premium gas.

    I then went to a Chevrolet dealership. I like the Tahoe, but for just me and mama, it is way too much vehicle for me. I was pleasantly surprised at the new, 2018 Equinox, which was about $35K. Problem is they use a turbocharged 4 banger engine to run this, which takes premium gas. They also have a new designed 2018 Traverse, which now has a diesel option, but will take many months to get one since they are new in California. I can't drive the Traverse because there is a national recall on the new driveshafts, so they are considered a "do not touch" vehicle for the time being.

    Yesterday, I thought I would look at the new Range Rover Evoque. I see them on TV and like that style, but knew nothing beyond that. After a 45 minute drive to Pasadena (CA), right on the Rose Parade route, I went to this Range Rover dealership. The less than knowledgeable and lazy salesman looked at me and said, "you ain't gunna fit into that Evoque!" Well, for $45K, I damn well will make this decision for myself. Well, he was right. My head hit the ceiling, and I looked like 10 pounds of poop in a 5 pound bag. He obviously wanted me to look at the real Range Rover, but with the price tag of $95K, it better drive on water and fly, because that is too much money. I did see a Discovery Sport that I absolutely loved, and with incentives, I would be out the door at $50K. It was built very well, but again, it used a turbo 4 banger with premium gas only. All in all, I loved that car. It was solid, had auto parking assist, a heads up display that showed you the speed in the windshield and can actually read speed limit signs and tell you if you are speeding or not. My concern is the reviews on these cars are all over the place. The salesman said I could drive through a 28" river without an engine stall, but honestly, how often will I try to do this stupid stunt?

    Since we were in the area, I decided to look at the Porsche suv, since I was told some are very reasonable priced. They had 4 suv's on display. The cheapest suv was $87K, and went up to $119K. I sat inside, feeling embarrassed because the Asian saleslady knew I was out of my league. I didn't drive this and thanked her for her time. I then look 20' away and discover a Maserati suv, that I had to look at. Their starting price was $89K, and went up to $159k. This lady salesperson (by the way, looked like a high class hooker wearing diamonds, a $10K dress, with super high heels) Mama got mad when she layed on my lap to turn on the A/C, but I didn't mind at all. As I walked away, she asked if I would like to look at the new Bentley suv, which had a starting price of $300K.

    Today, we will be going to the Mazda dealership to see if anything will fit me. Also, since mama loves her Kia, I will look at the new Surrentos. I don't like the redesign and honestly love the Kia Sportage, as my daughter just bought one and loved it. My G/F told me to forget the Sportage, because it will be too small for me.

    I also plan on visiting Volvo, BMW and Ford, just to look at the Edge, to see if their priced have come down from years ago when I first became excited to see them.

    Right now, I still like that discovery Sport but fuel mileage will only be about 18 MPG and with premium gas, once the gas prices go back up, I will not be a happy camper. The Chevy diesel, with 40 MPG looks promising, but I won't be able to pick one up for months.

    Please offer me any advise, my friends, as to what you like and which direction I want to go. Help me pick out a new car!
     
  2. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Remember when I went thu the shopping for my SUV? Yep it's been almost 2 years ago.

    I wanted to stay in the $30-$35 thou range.

    I ended up with the Mazda CX5 , had it almost 2 years...
    Know what we have done to it in 2 years....?

    Drove the crap out of it , not one hiccup, just rolled 30,000 miles.

    Comfortable . (Im 6'3" 240ish) , has averaged 31 mpg, and handles like a sports car.

    I was down to Toyota Rav4, Honda CRV, and the Mazda...Just got more bang for the buck from Mazda.

    If I had it to do again ....I'd would probably, maybe go to the CX9.
    more money, more toys, little more room.



    Jim
     

  3. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    Jim, that's the type of info im looking at. I'll be checking the 9 version.
     
  4. buster40c

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    Havasu you don't look like you weigh even 210 lbs. from that pic with your grandson.

    Years ago my boss had a Lexus{ over priced Toyota} 450 coupe and I wasn't impressed with it. I am only 5'10" and I couldn't wear a ball cap because my hat was against the ceiling.

    I just don't know if I like the new vehicles with auto braking and back up/parking gizmos. How in the heck can that car drive itself and I sure as heck can't understand how those auto brakes work? I would be afraid they would be applying way to often. The new Ford p/up commercial shows a p/up backing a boat on a trailer into the dock ramp.

    LOL I guess for the prices thy dang straight better drive themselves. But I am poor so that doesn't count.
     
  5. Tommycourt

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    The newest car I have is my 1979 Lincoln Mark V with only 92K on the speedo. I like it because not being as big as you guys, with my back in bad condition I can get in it and drive all day long in comfort. Problem is gas as 12-14 mpg is all I get but I am going to look into replacing the 400 motor with something from a later model car that will give me good gas mileage. The interior looks brand new and I put new tires and battery in it this year. I figure I can replace the engine and trans. for less than $5-$8,000.00 rather than spend $50 on a new car and still not have the comfort. One thing you might want to look at as far as a new car goes, check to see if it has a trans. dip stick. Many of the new cars don't for some reason and I don't understand why. If you buy a new car, they try to sell you and extended warranty for several thousand plus they want to change all your fluids which can become costly. I would have no idea of what car to buy but I don't care for SUV's so I would be lost as to what brand etc.


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  6. SHOOTER13

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    Happy Birthday Mark !!

    Look at Jeeps...
     
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  7. buster40c

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    Cars without trans dipsticks have been around for a long time. My Chevy 2006 Malibu with a v-6 didn't have a trans dipstick. It uses a sight glass on the bottom side of the trans. They say it is done like that to make the trans a sealed trans. My 2006 Impala with a v-6 has a dipstick.
    I am willing to bet buying a used say 2017 vehicle when it is about 10 years old and 150,000 miles on it will be a real money pit due to all the electronics cratering. When the warranty runs out you better sell it. I bet a 6 speed trany cost at least 5 grand to repair. But you guys got big bucks so that doesn't matter I guess. I wondered why Jaguars were so cheap with only 50,000 miles on them. Found out the trans are known for cratering around that mileage and they cost out the wazooo to repair or replace. I mean big time thousands to repair.
    I wouldn't think about buying any new vehicle with a turbo 4 banger in it which many car and even p/up have now. Well as long as I was going to sell it before the warranty ran out would be okay. I was looking at buying a new Malibu a couple years ago but GM only uses 4 bangers in them now. Geeze those 3.5 and 3.9 v-6 engines could run 300,000 miles without a hiccup.

    BTW Happy Birthday.....even if a day late.

    A friend of mine has a Toyota highlander and it is a very good and nice riding SUV. They have excellent dependability and longevity ratings. Hers is a 99 with close to 200,000 and it still runs great and still gets around 19 mpg country road driving. She doesn't get on any freeway. When I drive it I have to watch or I will be going 80 mph with it and not realize it.
     
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  8. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    Shooter, I have looked at the jeeps long and hard. I've owned 7 jeeps so far, and the newest was my 1993 Grand Cherokee. The new ones are now basically plastic, and they get pretty bad crash ratings in the NHTSA testing. I even commented that most of the cars styles I like are based on my Jeep ownership, and I like their boxy look. I may have to pay them another visit and test drive the new jeeps.
     
  9. nickndfl

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  10. Tommycourt

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    Mark,

    I forgot to wish you a happy birthday! Mine was this last Sunday and I almost forgot about it......not that it means that much to me cuz the years have just flown by. I wish I knew 30 yrs. ago what I know now. Things would be different!!

    Tommy
     
  11. buster40c

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    Well Tommy Happy Birthday to you also. Were you able to blow out all those candles? Or do they have a burn ban in effect so you only had one candle?
     
  12. Tommycourt

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    Thanks Buster for the yank!!!!! There were a lot of candles to blow out but I did it in 2 breaths........aaaahhhh. Those years passed by quickly. My brother left me with some money and my buddy from Ca. send me a hundred bucks so I thought I will rat hole the money for an upcoming pistol if I find one. Didn't happen!!! I went to the casino thinking that it would be my lucky day. Well I was playing the dollar slots and got a C note ahead, and instead of leaving, I stayed and lost. I finally won again so I cut my loses and ended up losing $20.00. I thought I am going to leave and just as I was walking out the door, the high players room caught my eye. I watched one guy who was playing the $25 slots and he would hit and win $600 and then loose it. I watched him for about 25 minutes and started to leave BUT one slot caught my eye and I thought another $20 won't hurt me. On the 18th dollar I won $72.00. I pushed the cash out button and came home. First time in a long time I walked out and no buddy could call me a vagrant!!!!!:cheesy: Normally I take a hundred bucks and loose it all. This was a first for me.

    Tommy
    Thanks for the yank, my legs were starting to feel good. Now I am back in pain again!!!!
     
  13. spikedriver

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    I got a 2014 Equinox. Bought it used 8-1-16. I've put 25,000 miles on it in that time and it's been flawless, other than being a little underpowered for high speed interstate driving. It's comfy too, I'm 6' and 245, with long arms and legs, and a bad back. I regularly make 5 hour or longer trips and only once did I hurt. That was a straight through, 26 hour run from California to Iowa with the only stops for gas and bathroom breaks. Doesn't the new Equinox have a diesel option too? Or a V-6 that uses regular gas? I very highly recommend the Equinox. It would be too bad if all of them use premium gas now.
     
  14. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    Well, today we went to Kia and I looked at the Sorrento, Sportage and the new Niro. The Sorrento fully loaded was $46k, about the same as the lexus I want. This dealer is known to stick it to you, so I was not impressed. The sportage I really like, as my daughter bought one at my recommendation. Price was right, but way underpowered. The Niro is brand new and gets 45 MPG. This would be a great road travel car, so mama may trade in her '13 Kia Sorrento and I'll go in half just for our road trips. But this won't be my car unless we go on trips.

    We then went to Volvo and I test drove the new XC60. Man, what a dream. the seats heat and cool, has vibrators and massagers for your back and butt and was a turbo/supercharged 4 banger that goes from 0-60 in about 5 seconds. It also had an air lift/lower, just like the bigger Range Rover for $100k. Had auto drive feature, will steer for you, watches your eyelids and if you are sleepy, will direct you to get a cup of coffee. Has a head's up display so the speed is imaged on your inside windshield, will read road signs and tell you if you are speeding, and has an auto park feature. I even tried this myself and it backed me perfectly into a parking spot automatically. It is the only car to sense pedestrians and animals, can brake for approaching deer, and the darn thing even had a refrigerated glove box! Problem is that this car is brand new, so no discounting, at had a price of $67K. So far this car is a dream and if it wasn't for the price tag, it would have come home with me today!

    http://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/new-models/all-new-xc60/features#/galleryview

    From there, and at Shooter's recommendation, we went to Jeep. The Cherokee was low and cheap looking, so we went straight for the Grand Cherokee. This didn't have all (actually any) bells and whistles, but had a sticker of $46K. yeah, it drove exactly like my 1993 grand Cherokee, that in 1992 I paid exactly $24K out the door. This was only a 4x2, so if I want some bells and whistles AND 4x4, it will be about $55k. Yeah, They had one of the sport Grand Cherokee, with a hemi and special ground effects for $78K. Good news is with all the incentives, I was able to get that $46K for $42k out the door (including tax and license, fees, etc) because Jeep is really wheeling and dealing. By the way, for 2018 the Jeep Compass is completely redesigned. Looks like a baby Grand Cherokee and is sharp looking, provided you are a midget...or way smaller than my fat arse.

    I will continue to Mazda tomorrow, provided I fix my broken bathroom faucet beforehand.
     
  15. havasu

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    Mark and Tommy Happy Belated Birthday!!!!!!

    The only SUV we have in the family is a RAV4. Mom LOVES it. Can pack a lot of tools in it. Really gets up and goes. A bit too fancy for me but occasionally it's fun to drive. The push button start gets me every time. Definitely not sure what to make of them camera's when you back up.........
    Good luck on your car hunting!!! Loving the stories! Keep on shopping! I'm learning a lot
     
  17. SavageGuy

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    Happy birthday you two!
     
  18. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Happy Birthday Mark..
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    Happy Birthday Tommy...
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    Jim
     
  19. SHOOTER13

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    Yea Mark...the Jeep Compass is nice...and it outdid the Jeep Patriot in sales, so Jeep is not bringing out a 2018 Jeep Patriot.

    My Jeep Patriot Limited is a 2013...that I bought in March of 2016...with 23K on the odometer... Just off a 3 year lease...and it was all highway driven, as the original leaser lived in Connecticut. ( GPS gave him away ).

    It has an all Leather Interior...a Power Sunroof...Power Heated Front Seats...Power Heated Side Mirrors...ice cold AC...a Touch-Screen Stereo with 28-gigabyte hard drive and Garmin based navigation system...Boston Acoustics Audio with 9 speakers...with 2 speakers that swing down from the lift gate for tail-gating parties... and is 4x4 Trail Rated with 17" rims...meaning it can meet off-road standards for traction, water fording, and ground clearance. Also came with 4 brand new Good Year tires ( P215 60/R17 ).

    Under the hood is a 172-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine...offering Gas Mileage of 30 MPG Highway...20 MPG City.


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