Sunday is my typical day to go to our indoor range. I took my full size 1911 Ruger, a Colt Combat Commander (9mm) and my gen 3 19 Glock. I was shooting at a 30 feet range using a modified Weaver stance. Our targets have the 10 ring which measures 3 inches in diameter. Using Berry 230 gr. round nose, 5.4 grn. of W231 I managed to keep the 1911 in the 10 ring for 50 rounds. I would load up 5 to a mag and then shoot. My Commander did the same thing. My Glock spread ran about 5'' to the left. I had a couple of flyers outside in the 9 ring at 9 o'clock. For ME, keeping the Ruger in the 10 ring is good considering my shaky hands and my old age. I also shot some .45 cal Berry bullets using 5.0 W231 and was pleasantly surprised at their accuracy. During the 50 rounds I shot, I mixed the 5.4 and the 5.0 and accuracy was the same. Recoil with the 5.4 was just a hair snappier. I can actually say, I am somewhat disgusted with the Glock. I just can't acquire the accuracy that I can get with my 1911's. My Commander was built in 1975 and has the steel slide and frame. I have replaced the barrel and bushing over the last year so basically, to me it is a new pistol. Only problem with the Commander, it has the old military sights and lighting beyond 30 feet at our range is not good. If you haven't tried a 1911 Ruger yet, and are interested in one, make sure and try it out!! Where ever you put the sights, that's where the bullet will strike. Sorry I don't have a camera so I can post the target, however it is hanging in my gun shop. I know some may say "Tommy is full of SHEETZ", but I promise, I am not lying!!! Keeping all 50 rounds in a 3" circle target is good for me and I am sure that there are plenty of guys and gals who can do much better. I am no way a pistolero, however it does heighten my confidence when it comes to self defense. Waiting for my Ruger Commander to come back from the factory and hope it will do the same thing. Should have it next week and I will give you a complete report on what they did and after shooting, I will advise you on how well or not well I did. Luck to all!!