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The Magpul PC Backpacker Stock for the Ruger® PC Carbine™ Above is the ultimate option for those wanting to bring advanced ergonomics and portability to their Ruger® PC Carbine™ rifle. With a similar look and functionality as our X-22 Backpacker stock, it offers a minimalist solution for the hunter or outdoorsman and was designed for those who want to transport their carbine in an efficient, convenient package without compromising shooting performance or ease of deployment.
The PC Backpacker is constructed with Magpul’s advanced polymer, featuring an ergonomic handguard with M-LOK® slots at the 3 & 9 o’clock positions and interchangeable cheek risers to accommodate for various sighting options. The PC Backpacker stock also features a MOE SL® rubber butt-pad offering an anti-slip surface that increases impact protection and is compatible with the MOE SL® Enhanced Rubber Butt-Pad for an additional 3/8” LOP.
Using a unique locking interface that attaches the barrel assembly to the receiver, the PC Backpacker provides an efficient solution for storage during transportation while maintaining convenient assembly from the stowed position. By including multiple QD cup mounting locations, we’ve made it easy to carry your Ruger® PC Carbine™ in either the broken down or assembled state with the Magpul Sling Mount Kit–Type 1 & Type 2.
We’ve also integrated two convenient storage locations. The first is a water-resistant grip storage compartment that provides an at-hand location for a small multi-tool, survival equipment, or cleaning equipment. The second is a compartment in the riser section that’s ideal for a single pistol magazine, fitting up to the PMAG® 21 GL9®.
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I have ordered the Magpul Backpacker Stock for my Ruger PC Carbine that with Sightmark Digital Day / Night Scope I have 5 Glock 17 round mags for the rifle plus 4 Glock 32 round magazines for the Ruger PC9 9MM and my Springfield Armory XDM OSP Full Size 4.5" 20 rounds with one in the chamber and 4 spare 19 round mags. This combo brings plenty of firepower for the Bugout / Survival Rifle / Pistol combo. I have taken several Feral Hogs and Coyotes with this Ruger PC9 9mm rifle. I have also taken Feral Hogs with my XDM 9mm Pistol as well as my Hell Cat 9mm Pistol . I think once my Backpacker Stock arrives it will be the ultimate Bugout / Survival combo or Trunk Guns. Well, my Magpul stock arrived and installed it on the Ruger PC 9 Carbine and I am impressed it has a tighter Lockup to the receiver a free-floated Forearm improved accuracy and everything fits into my backpack. Storage for batteries in the pistol grip and storage of one 20 round mag in the stock.9mm Ammo is in abundance and most police and military use this ammo.

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I would not pick a direct blowback PCC as a bugout gun. And I say that as someone who owns both a 9mm and .40 cal Ruger PCC. Nice guns both, but like most PCC's, leave alot of crap where they eat. Especially if they are going to be used for security purposes, it's a pain to have to take the PCC apart every 200 rnds. Or so, to clean to maintain good function.

I do like the common caliber concept for a pistol and carbine. But for me, I like a levergun and magnum revolver combo better.

I know you are an experienced hunter and shooter, so I definitely respect your decision.

If I was to bug out, it would not be for hunting, but most likely for safety/personal security reasons. For that case, I would want at least an intermediate range, high power bottle neck rifle caliber carbine. For me a Ruger Mini 14 or 30 fills that bill.

And yes, I also have Glock and CZ pistols on hand, for the times they best fit the bill.

All that said, my favorite combo Is a Marlin 1894s, and S&W 657 mountain gun in .41 magnum.
I would not pick a .41 Magnum Leaver gun or an old wheel gun. #1 Ammo is rare # 2 Leaver gun is slow and cumbersome. a 41 caliber wheel gun and a .41 caliber leaver gun is a poor choice 9MM is a common popular round in great abundance you can carry more of it. Most military and Police carry 9mm. I have been in Ground Combat and have found the 9mm Pistol Caliber Rifle and 9mm pistol to work well in close quarters out to 200 meters. I served 20 years as a Combat Infantryman and this is my choice because of its combat firepower even in semi-auto you can accurately engage the target with overwhelming firepower. Cleaning can be done with a common brake cleaner and gasoline.
 
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I love my PCC....it's a Marlin camp 9 carbine and it shares magazines with the Smith&Wesson 5900/6900 series pistols.
Although my Ruger mini 14 is a better bug out rifle. I will keep the Marlin for home defense ? and give it to my wife or daughter to use. In the meantime it is a fantastic plinking gun for target practice.
Amazing how popular these PCC's have become. the Rugers/Kel tecs/hi points are selling like hotcakes at fat camp😁
The Marlin camp 9 is a nice choice 9mm ammo is common and in great abundance, most police and military carry 9mm. Pistol caliber carbines are combat-proven a leaver gun and a wheel gun is an idiotic & poor choice.
 
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My brother loves the 41 magnum but it getting very hard to find. I hope you are reloading them.
Very hard to find ammo and it's a poor choice! .22 LR is a better choice than an old large-caliber Leaver gun & Revolver Combo 41 magnum ammo is in low abundance even before the Hoarding began.
 

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The Camp Carbine is a poor choice for a couple reasons:

1) It is Obsolete. Marlin is out of business , and doesn't make parts and magazines for this firearm.

2) It is more delicate than other 9mm PCC'S in its class, because of cheaply made internal parts that break and need replacement on a fairly frequent basis.

3) It uses magazines from the S&W model 59 pistol, which is also obselete. S&W no longer makes the magazines, so your limited to existing mags, or marginal quality aftermarket magazines
WRONG ! It's not Obsolete and parts are available but I own a Ruger PC 9 not a Camp 9 carbine.
 

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Yes, a 9mm PCC is fine. It's just that the Obsolete Marlin wouldn't be my 1st choice ( or 2nd, or 3rd)

Ruger, Beretta, Tabor would place ahead of the "Camp " 9mm.
Ruger is my choice the camp 9 belongs to someone else .
 
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That's fine, I'll leave the rodents for you, and I'll go after big game. I can always fish for survival eating, between deer backstrap BBQ meals.
I have taken BIG GAME with a .22 and made less noise not to attract attention to my location so much for the 41 Magnums LOUD Canon-like Report. The .22LR is more than adequate for large game animals at 0-100 Yards Professional Poachers have done it for well over 100 Years with shorts and longs. They used a .22 to evade the Game Wardens These poor People depended on the poached meat to survive and there are still poor people in Appalachia from southern NY to WVA, VA, Eastern KY, TN NC, SC, GA, AR that still poach for Survival.


Bella Twin Killed a World Record Grizzly Bear in 1953 with a 22 Long single shot bolt rifle.

https://throughahunterseyes.com/bella-twin-22-used-take-1953-world-record-grizzly/#:~:text=Bella Twin is shown with the hide from,in Alberta, Canada. She was 63 years old.


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I don't consider hogs "Big Game". And I certainly would not go trudging through brush where 10 yards is a long shoot, with a 22 rimfire, looking for one. They ( hogs) are more like giant varmints. With the diseases they carry, I could never eat one.

How many have you eaten?
I don't care what you consider BIG GAME a Wild Boar is a Large and Dangerous Game. The only 10 Yard shots are made when I trap them in a coral trap and it's still a .22lr Headshot that puts them to sleep with a Head Shot usually from a .22lr revolver where it loses a good bit of Velocity but the .22LR STILL gets the Job Done. But most of the time I sit in a Ladder Stand 25' off the Ground 50 - 75 Yards from a bait pile at night and make several Headshots in total Darkness and load up the Hogs afterward and transport them to the processor. Yes Both Wild & Domestic Swine carry a disease known as a blood-born Disease, Pseudorabies, Swine Brucellosis, Tularemia, Anthrax, Parasites this is why pork has to be cooked well for Human consumption to kill off these Diseases and Parasites. I have eaten several Wild Hogs and they taste no different from the pork meat at the grocery store. We give processed pork to food banks for the needy and if it were dangerous we would not be allowed to give it away.

IF THIS IS NOT A BIG GAME ANIMAL I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!
BLACK BEARS ARE SMALLER THAN THIS IN MY STATE BLACK
BEAR AVERAGE WEIGHT IS 90 TO 180 POUNDS BUT SOME HAVE
BEEN AS HIGH AS 660 POUNDS 75 POUNDS HEAVIER THAN THE
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THIS HOGS WEIGHT WAS 585 POUNDS IT WAS SO HEAVY IT BROKE
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BLEW OUT HIS LIGHTS! FOR A CLEAN HUMANE KILL .
 

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I don't consider hogs "Big Game". And I certainly would not go trudging through brush where 10 yards is a long shoot, with a 22 rimfire, looking for one. They ( hogs) are more like giant varmints. With the diseases they carry, I could never eat one.
How many have you eaten? "That's fine, I'll leave the rodents for you, and I'll go after big game. I can always fish for survival eating, between deer backstrap BBQ meals."
Do you consider Deer a Big Game Animal? As a Nuisance Wildlife Control Operator, I am often issued a Deer culling Permit also known as a depredation permit . I also use a .22lr To make headshots on deer on a field of crops 50 to 100 Yards away it only takes one to drop a White Tail. The Diseases carried by deer include Q-fever, chlamydiosis, leptospirosis, campylobacterosis, salmonellosis, cryptosporidiosis , giardiasis, Brucellosis, this meat is processed and given to the food banks to feed the needy no meat is damaged with the .22 LR whereas with a 41 magnum hand canon a whole shoulder would go to waste and all these diseases are killed by cooking the meat well. The average weight of a White Tail Deer is 100 pounds to 150 pounds you consider that Big Game the average weight of a feral Hog is 130 -180 Pounds and you don't consider that to be a big game??? Strange you say the Wild Swine carry Diseases and are not good to eat but Deer carry more Diseases than wild swine but you would eat deer meat ?????
 

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Mountain lions are not in my area we have some Black Leopards but they are rare and very few . We have some Bob Cats I killed 4 last year with my Ruger 10/22 .
 
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