The reason I added some is because my friend sometimes missed the paper all together. I think mine were all on paper luckily. She started out shooting her Phoenix ha22a. She shot maybe two and I noticed her thumb was bleeding. She did this last time she was shooting also. Cleaned her cut and bandaged it up then showed her what she was doing wrong. She was holding her support hand way to high over lapping her trigger hand. The slide was going across her thumb at the webbing to booger finger. She said she didn't even feel it cut her and if I hadn't said anything she wouldn't have known it. She was mostly on the paper but usually not close to the eye. She was usually shooting way low and right. I told her use her other eye for sighting and she did shoot better. LOL She closes her eyes when she shoots. She said she couldn't keep her eyes opne. I said you are shooting not sneezing so yes she could keep her eyes open. Oh Well She had fun shooting. Then I loaded up the Rossi snub with 38 special wad cutters. She asked is the recoil going to knock her on her hind end. I laughed and told her no this is a light recoil round. At first she did okay then her brain was kicking in for the little bit of recoil. She was shooting about two feet low. I use a 2x4 to hold down the bottom of the target roll of freezer paper and she hit the 2x4 a couple times. She said no way did she hit that low when it was a good 2' low. I showed her the splintered board with another bullet hole also. I watched her shoot and sure enough she was dropping the barrel really bad. Twice she pulled the trigger on an empty round and even she saw her drop the barrel then. I then had her shoot my GP100 M/C and she did a little better than with the snub. She seldom shoots and before she got her Phoenix from me she never even shot a handgun. So can't really say she did bad. I shot the Rossi and the M/C and I also did better with the M/C which was understandable. I don't shoot enough either but after about 50 I start doing much better. The other day I couldn't get out to the range because of my bum knee so I just stood outside my sliding door and shot at the hanging 4" wedges at the range which is about 45' away. I was hitting them with the little snub Rossi and the M/C. That little snub Rossi is more accurate than I am for sure. Anyway got to put some lead down range today.