[VThillman]

Midway has Lehigh Defense bullets (recommended by allenr) on sale. This link should get you there:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/5...fluid-transfer-monolithic-lead-free-box-of-50

You can navigate to other calibers from there.

They still ain't cheap.

 

[squirrelhunter]

I agree,that's about triple what I usually pay but the better designed bullets do cost more. I bought these 1 time looking for a consistent bullet,but never again.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2...meter-240-grain-bonded-hollow-point-box-of-50

 

[allenr]

The Lehigh extrenpme defender and Underwood XTreme defense rounds give dazzling performance as a SD. Many videos on YouTube comparing them in 380 and 9mm with the best HP rounds out there. They win ever time. I carry Underwood in my Lc9s. It is hotter than the Lehigh. It they cost more, but my life is worth a few extra bucks. I practice with 115 gr fmj, once a month shoot of a Mag of the Underwood to keep testing my accuracy with that round.

 

[Oldhand]

Only problem I see, is they are always telling us to not use reloaded bullets for self defense. The lawyer saying we perpusly used the nastyest bullet to kill not wound.

 

[MagBlackhawk]

Only problem I see, is they are always telling us to not use reloaded bullets for self defense. The lawyer saying we perpusly used the nastyest bullet to kill not wound.

Yeah, hard to figure if some DA, grand jury, politician, the liberal Hollywood news media or even the US Attorney General might attack you over your "evil" ammo.


:GadsdenFlag:

 

[allenr]

If the "evil ammo" saves me in a deadly encounter, My lawyer and I will deal with the DA at trial. Better than having the perp go on trial for my murder.

 

[Tommycourt]

For self defense I carry the Hornady Self Defense round. 220 gr hollow point. They passed the gel tests very well although I don't have the money to practice with them. I have shot a couple of boxes to see where they hit (POI) and shoot 230 gr. Berry round nose plated every Sunday for practice. If some smart azz lawyer asks me what I am carrying I just say a self defense round just like it says on the box.

Tommy

 

[squirrelhunter]

Only problem I see, is they are always telling us to not use reloaded bullets for self defense. The lawyer saying we perpusly used the nastyest bullet to kill not wound.

Yeah,that's why I only carry factory rounds for self defense and my reloads for target shooting and won't spend that much on them.

 

[squirrelhunter]

I carry either Hornady Critical Duty or Critical Defense,whichever I can get.

 

[VThillman]

Being a humanist wuss, I am concerned about collateral damage just about as much as stopping ability. Lehigh seems to ignore the collateral damage factor. Hornady's Critical Defense seems to be different from its Critical Duty because the company tries to account for that factor.

On another 'seems' front, any shot I fire that goes astray and kills a neighbor will have caused a greater tragedy than my own death would be. On my downstream side, the family includes two good kids, 15 and 10 y.o. Nuff said.