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Blows the new Glock 44 out of the water. No excuses now for not carrying. I really like how they did the safety on it because on my EC9s I carry it weak side but it's awkward to disengage when I go in to draw.



The LCP 2 .22 LR has it side to side so that as you go in you can just press it forward and draw. I pocket carry without a holster so I do like having an external safety. A holster is to bulky and prints. I'm gonna buy a 'Clipdraw' and get that safety outside the pocket.

I walk with a cane on my strong side so I have trained myself to shoot from the weak side as well. If the safety was ambidextrous it would work good.
 

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I have a Phoenix Arms .22 and shoots well. I am please to say I paid $139.00 and shot 2,000 rnds without any issues. I thought, for 140 bucks why not and it turned out to be a great little gun. Worth every little penny. Its negatives are the safeties and the magazine release has to be depressed while removing the magazine. If you release the mag rel. it locks the magazine from being removed even half way out it locks. Once you get passed all of that and are shooting, it's lots of fun. My children love it.
Now for Ruger LCP II .22, I am sure it is a very good buy and very well worth every little penny. For self defense against a two legged rat, why not. I pushes a .40 gr. projectile to roughly 1,100 fps. give or take 50 and up close during an altercation it may save your life and get you out of a situation.
 

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I have a Phoenix Arms .22 and shoots well. I am please to say I paid $139.00 and shot 2,000 rnds without any issues. I thought, for 140 bucks why not and it turned out to be a great little gun. Worth every little penny. Its negatives are the safeties and the magazine release has to be depressed while removing the magazine. If you release the mag rel. it locks the magazine from being removed even half way out it locks. Once you get passed all of that and are shooting, it's lots of fun. My children love it.
Now for Ruger LCP II .22, I am sure it is a very good buy and very well worth every little penny. For self defense against a two legged rat, why not. I pushes a .40 gr. projectile to roughly 1,100 fps. give or take 50 and up close during an altercation it may save your life and get you out of a situation.
 

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JUst got the lcp2 22lr--have you noticed how "light" the lands and grooves are in the barrel--I can just barely barely see a line or two!!! How is your barrel??? Pistol shoots great and fairly accurate even to 25 yards....
 

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What do you think goes in that circled area on well over half the bodyguards sold? Just like the entire m&p line. I have the manual safety on my Shield 9mm.
 

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What do you think goes in that circled area on well over half the bodyguards sold? Just like the entire m&p line. I have the manual safety on my Shield 9mm.
I bought the safety delete model because it is not necessary on a a gun with a 9-10 lb double action only trigger . If you keep your gun secured in a holster and only pull it out to confront a threat, then you dont need it. I was trained to shoot on revolvers (no safety)30 years ago, trained as a law enforcement officer with DAO pistols, & I've never owned a pistol with a safety ..........and I never will.
 

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JUst got the lcp2 22lr--have you noticed how "light" the lands and grooves are in the barrel--I can just barely barely see a line or two!!! How is your barrel??? Pistol shoots great and fairly accurate even to 25 yards....
Yes, the lands are light, but it still shoots accurate enough and practically NO recoil.
 

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That has to be light enough to carry around for long oeriods of time. Thought about the SR22 for awhile, but it really isn't that small compared to my LC9s or Shield. Not for serious carry, but for around the old rancho. It's much lighter than my target model Ruger Mk IIs.

Not much into the pocket .380s with all the 9s available. I do have a reliable, durable and accurate Beretta ''Bobcat'' .22 for around here, but it is all metal and heavy. The ittle Ruger .22 might be worth looking into.

A pic of the Bobcat and poceket holster.

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That has to be light enough to carry around for long oeriods of time. Thought about the SR22 for awhile, but it really isn't that small compared to my LC9s or Shield. Not for serious carry, but for around the old rancho. It's much lighter than my target model Ruger Mk IIs.

Not much into the pocket .380s with all the 9s available. I do have a reliable, durable and accurate Beretta ''Bobcat'' .22 for around here, but it is all metal and heavy. The ittle Ruger .22 might be worth looking into.

A pic of the Bobcat and poceket holster.

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Hey Pancho, you old warhorse.
You still going to shows and stealing guns from people.
Hope your well my friend.

I love my Bobcat too.

Jim
 
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That has to be light enough to carry around for long oeriods of time. Thought about the SR22 for awhile, but it really isn't that small compared to my LC9s or Shield. Not for serious carry, but for around the old rancho. It's much lighter than my target model Ruger Mk IIs.

Not much into the pocket .380s with all the 9s available. I do have a reliable, durable and accurate Beretta ''Bobcat'' .22 for around here, but it is all metal and heavy. The ittle Ruger .22 might be worth looking into.

A pic of the Bobcat and poceket holster.

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my 1st pocket pistol was the l'il Beretta. bought one in 1994 for $150. I carried it until 2008, when I traded it in and got what I paid for it. So in a sense I carried it for 14 years for FREE. Great little guns, rugged, small, tip up barrell was neat, I miss it sometimes.
 

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I got one....nice little gun. If you are used to flicking off a safety on a 1911 or a Shield this is as easy.
Nice Shot groups I have the LCP II Lite Rack in .22 LR I carry it and 2 spare mags as a back up to my 9 mm Hell Cat , XDM .45 Tactical or XDM 9 MM.I use the CCI Velocitor 40 grain Copper Plated Hollow Point its weight and speed make it a good round for Hunting ,Target Practice, Self Defense, The .22 LR is scoffed at as a defense round some people over look the .22 LR and view it as a Toy but it has earned a place in the self defense arena and is a real contender and is no Toy it's deadly ! In Greg Ellifritz Forensic Police study of 154 attackers shot by .22 LR Handguns 34% of those hit in the head neck or torso Thats 52.36 of 154 shot were fatal .31% of the 154 shot were one shot stops that's 47.74 of 154 . The distance average was between 0 - 21 feet or 0-7 yards .Some people will look at this data and say “He’s telling us all to carry .22s”. That’s not true. Although this study showed that the percentages of people stopped with one shot are similar between almost all handgun cartridges. What matters even more than caliber is shot placement. Across all calibers, if you break down the incapacitations based on where the bullet hit ,you will see some useful information.

Head shots = 75% immediate incapacitation: that's 115 of 154 shot by a .22 Handgun.
Torso shots = 41% immediate incapacitation: that's 63 of the 154 shot by .22 Handgun.
Extremity shots (arms and legs) = 14% immediate incapacitation: That's 21 of the 154 shot by .22 Handgun.

No matter which caliber you use, you have to hit something important in order to stop someone!

In Greg's Conclusion he said " The results I got from the study lead me to believe that there really isn’t that much difference between most defensive handgun rounds and calibers. None is a death ray, but most work adequately…even the lowly .22s. I’ve stopped worrying about trying to find the “ultimate” bullet. There isn’t one. And I’ve stopped feeling the need to strap on my .45 every time I leave the house out of fear that my 9mm doesn’t have enough “stopping power.” Folks, carry what you want. Caliber really isn’t all that important." I agree with him !
I dont' use the safety on my LCP II .22

 

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That has to be light enough to carry around for long oeriods of time. Thought about the SR22 for awhile, but it really isn't that small compared to my LC9s or Shield. Not for serious carry, but for around the old rancho. It's much lighter than my target model Ruger Mk IIs.

Not much into the pocket .380s with all the 9s available. I do have a reliable, durable and accurate Beretta ''Bobcat'' .22 for around here, but it is all metal and heavy. The ittle Ruger .22 might be worth looking into.

A pic of the Bobcat and poceket holster.

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As far as carrying around on our 'empire', I also mostly carry a Ruger .22, just in case a rogue chipmunk might attack. In spring right after the black bears start coming out of hibernation, and have a ferocious appetite, then the .454 Casull is part of the 'dress of the day'.
.22 rimfire is not reliable enough for a serious life insurance policy.
 

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Nice Shot groups I have the LCP II Lite Rack in .22 LR I carry it and 2 spare mags as a back up to my 9 mm Hell Cat , XDM .45 Tactical or XDM 9 MM.I use the CCI Velocitor 40 grain Copper Plated Hollow Point its weight and speed make it a good round for Hunting ,Target Practice, Self Defense, The .22 LR is scoffed at as a defense round some people over look the .22 LR and view it as a Toy but it has earned a place in the self defense arena and is a real contender and is no Toy it's deadly ! In Greg Ellifritz Forensic Police study of 154 attackers shot by .22 LR Handguns 34% of those hit in the head neck or torso Thats 52.36 of 154 shot were fatal .31% of the 154 shot were one shot stops that's 47.74 of 154 . The distance average was between 0 - 21 feet or 0-7 yards .Some people will look at this data and say “He’s telling us all to carry .22s”. That’s not true. Although this study showed that the percentages of people stopped with one shot are similar between almost all handgun cartridges. What matters even more than caliber is shot placement. Across all calibers, if you break down the incapacitations based on where the bullet hit ,you will see some useful information.

Head shots = 75% immediate incapacitation
Torso shots = 41% immediate incapacitation
Extremity shots (arms and legs) = 14% immediate incapacitation.

No matter which caliber you use, you have to hit something important in order to stop someone!

In Greg's Conclusion he said " The results I got from the study lead me to believe that there really isn’t that much difference between most defensive handgun rounds and calibers. None is a death ray, but most work adequately…even the lowly .22s. I’ve stopped worrying about trying to find the “ultimate” bullet. There isn’t one. And I’ve stopped feeling the need to strap on my .45 every time I leave the house out of fear that my 9mm doesn’t have enough “stopping power.” Folks, carry what you want. Caliber really isn’t all that important." I agree with him !
I dont' use the safety on my LCP II .22

What are we to do, always carry firearms chambered in the largest and most powerful caliber on our person 24/7? If we're walking in the woods in Alaska then sure, carry a big 'ol revolver chambered in S&W 500 Magnum in a chest rig, but what good is carrying a hand canon if you can't hit anything with it or have difficulties with follow up shots due to excessive recoil?

It's another thing altogether if you're out doing your daily grind; if you're competent with what you carry - it shouldn't matter what you're carrying.

Many people are great at talking the talk and they honestly believe that just because they own and carry a firearm on their person that they're invincible, but most often that's nothing but pure machismo BS posturing.

It's the folks that exhibit humility that I'm impressed with...
 
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