Free offer just pay

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by buster40c, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. buster40c

    buster40c Well-Known Member

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    Don't you just love those ads for something free just pay handling and postage. Free and just pay don't seem to fit in same sentence. Free $29.95 flashlight just pay postage of $4.95 and get a 15 day trial to some magazine that if you don't cancel within 15 days your credit card info for the shipping and handling will be billed $15.95 monthly. You can cancel anytime. I cancelled it now by closing the web page.
    It's free you just have to pay............ LOL Free and Pay means it isn't free, at least that's how I look at it.
     
  2. allenr

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    Who was it that said there is a sucker born every minute? He was right. Glad to see you are not one.
     

  3. MagBlackhawk

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    Allen,^ ^ I believe that was P.T. Barnum.


    What about the ones that you pay for the item and get free shipping. (Just pay a separate fee). Lol
    Then...
    But wait, there's more. You get two, that's right two for the price of one. (Just pay an extra handling fee).

    It seems like all products sold on TV have to run the same scam...
    In the 80's everything was new and improved, everything.... corn flakes, you name it, new and improved.
    I only know of two products where that was true, motorcycle tires and helmets.
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  4. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    Speaking of free, 10 months ago, I was inside Barnes and Noble, and they convinced me to pay $25 for a lifetime membership, where I get discounts on books, special promotions, and what not. I just got a notice this morning that this lifetime membership is actually an annual membership, and they are going to suck out $25 from my charge card next month, and will do so for the rest of my life. I haven't been back inside that book store in 10 months, so this is a waste of money for me.

    Time to make a phone call to cancel this crap!
     
  5. VThillman

    VThillman Active Member

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    Havasu, what you describe reads like an ideal situation for a recently retired attorney who is getting bored. You don't have a friend who fits that description?
     
  6. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    I just cammed Barnes and Noble. They apologized in a way that seems this happens all the time. They cancelled any future billing but refused to reimburse me for shady sales practices.
     
  7. 67stingray

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    You got that right buster, and not only is it an outrageous price for shipping if you look closer they say 4 to 6 weeks delivery. It's amazing how many people buy these things and keep the companies in business and if you wait a week you will see the item in Dollar Store or Walmart.
     
  8. Tommycourt

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    I have an alarm system that was pushed on to me 3 years ago. This month is my LAST month of my contract so I have called them twice to ensure that the contract was over. They conceded it was but I have to sign some papers in accordance with their policy. I have called twice now to have them send me the paperwork to end the contract. Once last month and once in the first week of this month. I have yet to receive any paperwork what so ever for me to sign. I will try one more time for another phone call. The system they sold me has not worked in 2 years. I called about it not working and they said there would be a $75.00 service fee plus anything else found wrong was my responsibility. I was told that it was MY equipment and not theirs and they had no obligation to fix it without my payment. I am going to call the bank and tell them that this will be the last payment I will make regardless of receiving the paperwork or not. I think the crap is going to hit the fan and they may try to damage my credit which is in good standing. Note: when I called them about the unit not working, they told me that was their older style of alarm system and I would have to update to the newer system, however it would extend my contract and of course they offered to lower the price for the first year. Yeah.............right!!!

    Tommy
     
  9. buster40c

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    I bought one of those wallets that you get two for price of one supposedly at no cost for the second one. Usually they allow you to see the final bill before accepting but this one as soon as had the card info processed the sale on my card. I checked and found the $9 wallet was going to charge my card $43. I did a search for complaints on the seller and found they had all sorts of complaints of over charges that were unauthorized. I went to my bank in the morning to have the charge taken off and they said they couldn't do that and I had to call the company and get them to remove the charge. I told her I was being scammed by the company and she said there wasn't anything she could do. So much for credit card protection on purchases.
    I told her then cancel my credit card right now. Oh she changed her tune real quick. She changed the card number for a new card. I got an email and snail mail from the company that the sale wouldn't go through. I found before buying anything online to do a search such as "gotyourmoney.com" complaints. That will show what complaints if any for a shady company offer.
    The credit card so called secure buy is not as secure as you might think. Check the contract and the company before you sign or give card info. By law in home sale you have three days to cancel a sale. Only problem is you usually don't find out you might have gotten ripped off till much later.
     
  10. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I found out the hard way ,
    That if (lesson learned) I put any bills , like DISH, on auto pay thru a debit or credit card #, that the only way to stop them from drawing a payment(if you drop the service) is to get the bank to cancel out that card and issue a new one, if you want another one.

    They will NEVER stop drawing payments , just because you tell them to, or try to cancel the service.

    I will write a check every month....thank you,
    They dont like paperwork , and they dont like it that you can just stop when you want to.

    Jim
     
  11. nickndfl

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    Lots of services are trying for a subscription base. Everything from alarms as mentioned above to pest control. Don't give anybody authorization to pay a bill automatically either via credit card or bank account.

    I had to do a skip trace on a deadbeat recently and paid the $5 service fee for a Walmart debit card that I can recharge whenever. It was a one off, but it's better than chasing companies around. Happened to me with a financial services company and learned my lesson.
     
  12. Tommycourt

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    I made my call for the third time to the alarm system company about my contract expiring and wanting a letter of cancellation showing I had fulfilled my contract just to make sure that it was over. I was told that they don't send out letters of cancellation and I had to do it online with a signature. I admit I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I stated how would I know if they had received it or not and would they honor it. They again offered to update my equipment and lower my rates for the first year since I was a valued customer. I told them I did not want their service any more and all I wanted was a cancellation notice. I then asked for a supervisor and she told me the same thing and went through the whole sales gimmick again. Again I told them no. She also stated there would be a cancellation fee since I did not give them a 30 day notice. I then told her the date I had called the first and second times and gave them the dates I called and to whom I had spoken to. That ended that conversation, however I had heard from a neighbor that had the same service that had gone through exactly what I did but did not write down the names or dates of his wanting to cancel. He advised me to call the bank and notify them not to pay any more bills from them after the end of this month which is the time my contract expires. Had I not done that, they will just keep on billing me for service even though I cancelled. So tomorrow I am calling my bank and instructing them that after this month not to pay anymore to the company. I hope this will resolve my situation.

    Tommy
     
  13. VThillman

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    That outfit sounds like it operates on the 'sharp business practice' principle, same as my phone company only worse. Are you going to sign up for another alarm service Tommy?
     
  14. buster40c

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    I will be surprised if your bank stops making the payments. I am guessing they will tell you that you have to get the company to stop charging your bank account. I do believe, as was said before, that you need close that account with your bank in order to stop the charges.
     
  15. MagBlackhawk

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    Hey Tommy,

    Send them a certified letter demanding they stop service.
    They can't LIE and claim they didn't know cause they have to sign for the letter.
    I had to deal with AT&T's lies till they got the letter...... :puker:



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  16. buster40c

    buster40c Well-Known Member

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    I tried out using T-mobil wifi internet service and I asked what if your service does not work well in my area. I told him I dropped T-mobil cell phone because I often had dropped calls. He said T-Mobil has increased their coverage with more towers now. The guy checked my area and he said customers in my area reported good and fast internet 4G service. He said those are reports directly from customer reviews of their service. I asked what if it doesn't work for me am I stuck with paying for this service and the wifi unit. He said he didn't want to tell me something wrong and said he would check first. He went to a back room and came back telling me I had 14 days to try it out and get all my money back for the unit and I would not be charged any further charges since I was not under a contract for the service. So I paid the total of $105 that covered the wifi unit and the set up charges for 14 gb plan.

    I tried the service and it took almost 8 minutes to bring up my email account. It took close to two minutes just to bring up duckduckgo search site home page. I saw the wifi was using 2G connection not 4G which is probably why it was so slow. So I called the T-Mobil store and they said bring it back then for a refund.

    I get to the store and the woman tells me she couldn't cancel the account and that I needed to call to cancel it. Since I lived so far away she called for me while I was there in the store and cancelled it. Wasn't that nice of her? Oh but wait! She seems to be having a problem doing the credit back and she asked the manager for assistance. He tells me he can't refund the activation fee because that is not done by T-mobil. WHAT??? T-mobil doesn't do the activation? I said this is expletive rip off.
    Then he says there will be a restocking fee for returning the wifi unit. Oh I am really pissed now and I said this is bull sh.. which I again said only saying bull crap. I told him I was told yesterday that I would be fully refunded all costs. The guy said he wasn't going to stand for swearing in his store. I said well I don't like being ripped off either. He said he was going to take care of the restocking fee so there was no need for my cussing and I said well you just told me You had to charge me the fee. He said he was going to take care of the fee. Talk about a turn around moment by moment! I said I apologize since I must have misunderstood his saying he had to charge me the fee. I didn't misunderstand what he said at first. So I got a refund of $74 and some change since I couldn't get the activation fee refunded. I figured this was as good as it was going to get. I left the store.

    OOPS not done yet! Here it is a couple weeks later and I get a letter in the mail that my plan use for the past month of $70 will be due on the 15th of this month. I guess I should have paid for a de-activation fee? This reminds me of politics in that before the election we hear one thing to get our vote/money but as soon as they got our vote/money then we hear a totally different story.

    So I called T- Mobil and explained the problem and that no way was I paying for any use charges since I returned the unit the next day. The woman said she was sorry and would stop the charges and close the account. I said good and you can refund my activation fee also to which she just laughed. I guess she thought that was funny. I guess now it is a wait and see what happens next. I asked for a reference number to which she said there isn't any reference number but she gave me her employee number and name. I will never deal with T-mobil again.
     
  17. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    buster ......

    You sure that wasn't AT&T?

    I have spent 2 hours on the phone every month since July, just listening to one lie after another about how they have NOW got my billing right....yeah right.

    If I had any choice for internet other than DSL.... I'd be telling AT&T where they can go .

    I HATE AT&T, but it's the best game in town for now.



    Jim
     
  18. VThillman

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    Jim & Buster, You are telling horror stories, and Halloween was last month.
    My phone company/Internet provider - Vermont Telephone Company - is run using 'sharp business practice' by it's boss, Mr. Guité, but he isn't that arrogant. Maybe he figures he's too, um, 'accessible'. Some of the hillfolk take these things personal.
     
  19. MagBlackhawk

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    AT&T, ? ..... Sure sounds like them.

    I fought with AT&T for eleven days straight over advertising that had been wrong for 3 years.
    I had to sleep with my phone so that I could not miss the one return call they made. (8:05 AM)
    It was obvious to all that I was done doing business with them... OBVIOUS I say!

    One Year later....
    We received a mailing that was OBVIOUSLY nothing but junk mail from AT&T.
    I mean it had little advertisements all over the envelope that were just screaming JUNK MAIL JUNK MAIL.

    Nope, it was a trick that we found they use regularly.

    AT&T was informing me that they were automatically renewing my advertising contract.
    I only opened that "junk mail" so I could get a laugh at what they were trying sell me...
    Here's your certified letter AT&T. :mad: Now were're done!!!
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  20. Sportymonk

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    THAT is why I never let anybody draft out of my accounts. I will set up an automatic pay to them but they do NOT get to tap into my account for any reason period!