Elsie Pea Dos a real Peach

Discussion in 'Ruger Center Fire Pistols' started by EasyCZ, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. EasyCZ

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    Since Ruger was nice enough to fix all the shortcomings of the original LCP, a/k/a Elsie Pea, I decided it was time to pick up the Gen II mouse gun and give it a shot.

    It's my first experience with .380 ACP, so I'm certainly looking forward to paying more for ammo that does less than 9mm.

    All joking aside, this LCP redesign is very well done. The stippling is fantastic, giving a solid purchase on the diminutive pistola. I really love the finger extension on the lone provided mag. Sure, I can only get two fingers on the grip, but it's a solid hold thanks to the wider grip and stippling.

    Unlike the Gen I (excluding the Custom), this baby has actual, usable sights. They are serrated and blacked out, offering the shooter a very clean sight picture. The trigger is outstanding and is lightyears ahead of the Gen 1's gritty and excruciatingly long trigger pull.

    And with Gen 2 mags, this LCP II's slide locks back after the last round. Outfreakingstanding.

    The slide's rear and forward serrations are clean and extremely useful, it being such a small handgun. That being said, the Gen II is a smidge larger and heavier than the Gen I, but it is leaps and bounds better too. And, the extra girth and weight also help tame the original LCP's snappy recoil.

    I'm looking forward to breaking this little beast in and adding it to the EDC BUG role.

    LCP II Pros

    • Great ergonomics

    • Vastly-improved trigger

    • Clean sight picture, with serrated steel sights

    • Very useable stippling

    • Slide locks back after last round

    • Gun will fire without mag inserted

    • Excellent forward and rear slide serrations

    • Outstanding price point

    • Will fit in most LCP I holsters

    • Ruger pocket holster provided

    • Made in the USA

    LCP II Cons

    • One mag provided (understandable given the price point)

    • Crappy Ruger Cardboard Box (again, understandable given the price point)

    • Seven-round Ruger mags not available yet.

    Overall, this is a sweet pocket carry piece. Regardless if it's your primary or BUG.

    Range report to follow.

    Well done, Ruger!

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  2. SavageGuy

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    I'm looking hard at the LCP II, although I don't like the .380.

    Very good review, and, as always, your pictures are outstanding!
     

  3. EasyCZ

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    Thanks, SavageGuy. I'm not a huge fan of 380 either. But with Ruger fixing the shortcomings of the Gen I LCP, it was hard to pass up as a deep concealment backup. Especially still under $300. I think Ruger has another hit on its hands.

    Can't wait to see the OD/FDE/Camo frame runs. The OD LCP was a real looker.

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    The LCP II will be replacing my heavier, wider, and lower capacity j-frame in the pocket/ankle BUG role.

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    LCP II vs Glock 26
     
  4. SavageGuy

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    I got to shoot one in October. Very manageable, nice trigger. I'm just worried that if I bought it, I'd start carrying more than my Lc9s.....

    And I'd have to buy some new reloading stuff for the new caliber.
     
  5. SHOOTER13

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    I carry this slim...lightweight 9 from Kel Tec...

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    Also have a few .380's...old school iron:


    circa 1922

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    circa 1972

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    ...and this Cold War Relic in 9x18 circa 1961

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    And...when I wear my Speedo's :rolleyes:...I carry these:

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  6. gumpy

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    Shooter, what do you think you are going to be robbed of when wearing speedo's?
     
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    By the way. Very nice collection of bug's!
     
  8. SavageGuy

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    Loving the Colt, Mak, and PPK. Real beauties.
     
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    Gumpy wins the internet for today!:Trophy2:
     
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  11. SHOOTER13

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    My Pride Gump...!! :rolleyes:
     
  12. VThillman

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    Just lighter bullets. Same dies as the 9X19.
     
  13. SavageGuy

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    You're right, I forgot about that....

    I guess I I'd really need is new brass. I already have some lighter .356 bullets that would work. (Or maybe they're .355? I forget, I'll have to check)
     
  14. greg_r

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    380 and 9mm dies are different. 9mm is tapered and has a larger head, 380 is straight and the head is the same size as the 223. In the times I have had a 380 mixed in with the 9mm cases, the 380 will run into the die, knock out the primer, but it will not size. The cases pop out of the shell holder when it gets to the priming stage. If you get as far as the expanding die, it's a no go, case is not long enough to engage the expander plug.
     
  15. SavageGuy

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    ^^you're right about that part. I have accidentally sized a .380 case in a 9mm die. Didn't size it.


    I've been wanting to reload again, haven't done it in months because it's too cold in the garage. When spring comes ...........
     
  16. VThillman

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    My pseudo-photographic memory reported a label on a Lee 4-die set stating that it was for 9mm Luger and .380/9mm Corto. A real-life check of the label revealed that it is for 9mm Luger - 9mm Parabellum. Hmm; someone changed that label on me. Obama!