Donald Trump...hmmm

Discussion in 'Politics and Religion' started by phideaux, Aug 18, 2015.

  1. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    We all have opinions, and they will differ...

    I may not like yours , you may not like mine.
    But.. we will respect each others opinions.

    What is your opinion of the Donald ?


    My opinion

    He aint going away anytime soon.
    I do like a lot of the things he says,
    I dont like him as a person,
    I DO NOT want him as POTUS,
    I think he may stir up some reaction on some of the things he is saying,
    and get some of the GOP on line with some things americans want.
    Maybe.


    Jim
     
  2. buster40c

    buster40c Well-Known Member

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    I think he will not make it to potus. "They" will not allow it unless he is actually part of the show. I am not sure what part he is playing for who but I am pretty sure bottom line his heart is in it for himself.
    The line he is talking is, I think, what Americans want. Less government control and less selling out of the citizens. Because he is fighting back his ratings are going up instead of down. Obama sold a dream while he actually intended a nightmare. Trump is selling we the people not we the government which is a new twist the people like to hear.
     

  3. VThillman

    VThillman Active Member

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    I think success for Trump's candidacy could represent the irretrievably excessive reaction to Obama's (abominable) policies that buries the US republic in the midden of history. Between the Obama-ites and the plutocrats, the republic is in a bad way already. Giving the country up to either gang could be disastrous.

    [Ahem. Centrist emoting here.]
     
  4. Ernesto

    Ernesto In the army now..

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    I'm going to vote for the person who is addressing our crazy debt to the communists. So far only Ron Paul, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders has addressed this matter. The rest are the usual puppets.
    Plus I'd never vote for Jeb Bush. He was involved in the savings and loan scandal where people lost millions of dollars in savings. He took the fifth and got away with it because his dad was running the CIA back then.
     
  5. squirrelhunter

    squirrelhunter Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm voting for anybody but Hillardisaster. I don't think Trump as what it takes to be POTUS because he's not a real Politician and he don't know the game but I think his ideas are what this Country needs,but I'd take him over the previously mentioned disaster any day.
     
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  6. uniongap

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    If he is the nominee I will vote for him. There is better qualified ones running, but he has taken all the wind out of their sails. Hillary my be sidelined with this FBI investigation. It doesn't look good for her. So we hope the best qualified GOP will have a better chance with the bias news media.
     
  7. uniongap

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    Just watched Trump in Mobile. He delivered a powerful speech. If he keeps this up he will be the nominee.
     
  8. Ernesto

    Ernesto In the army now..

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    Tell the people what they want to hear and your in. Besides that I think people want someone who is not a politician.
     
  9. VThillman

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    Well, I may as well make my August 2015 guess - can't wait much longer to do it in August. Before doing so, I will state that no candidate can win the job with only party votes, there must be Indie support, and probably some votes from the 'other' party.

    Republican - Ben Carson. He is acting like a middle-of-the-party candidate, which helps if the convention is fragmented.

    Democrat - Bernie Sanders. He is so much a populist that being a New York Jew Democratic-Socialist is not a heavy enough load to sink him.

    In November 2016 - given those candidates and no major screw-ups - Carson will get the job. Bernie's load gets too heavy.

    My confidence in this prediction is approximately 4.7%. ;)
     
  10. SHOOTER13

    SHOOTER13 RETIRED MODERATOR Lifetime Supporter

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    Not a damn one of them can be trusted to do what is necessary to bring this republic back from the brink !!

    I fear for the future of this country...

    Took all my savings out of the stock market...per Warren Buffett...now investing in copper, lead and brass...storable food and water...

    Because...it's comin' !!
     
  11. Tommycourt

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    Trump had his big speech last night however I was not privy to it. He brings out some very important points and although his rhetoric is not PC compatible, his message is. The common people are tired of hearing from professional politicians and he is telling us what he would do. I don't think he will win the POTUS, however maybe some of these politicians will wake up. Our rookie candidates are bringing more to the table than all the lifetime candidates have been doing for the last decade or so. Rookies are Trump, Carson and Fiorina. This is their first time on a national stage and people are willing to listen. They don't have a political background but I don't hold that against them. Personally I think that is the bright star in the sky. They are willing to say what we all feel inside of us. Many of us want to guard our Constitution and the Bill of Rights while our Congress is trampling all over it including SCOTUS. I don't know how Trump, Carson or Fiorina would react to some of our worlds problems but to my notion, and my humble opinion, they are at least worth listening to. And anybody except Hillary, I MIGHT, and I say again, MIGHT support. One more thing and I will end my rant. This BLM movement (Black lives matter) is no less than what the KKK did years ago if you reverse the situation and our government and POTUS seem to accept their theology and not say a thing against it. Makes your head spin.
    Tommy
     
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  12. VThillman

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    It's going to take more than a POTUS to bring us to the light. The 'People' need to believe in the rightness of the Constitution and our common need to elect a Congress beholden to us, and not to the plutocrats. And then we need to work all of us together for our common good.

    Can you see any chance at all of that happening?

    The best abandoning sort of preparation for SHTF if SHTF happens will buy you a few unpleasant years before the barbarians take away all that is good. You should band together, not fly apart.

    Oops, I'm preaching. Maybe it's the barbecued ribs I had for supper.
     
  13. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If Trump wins the nomination...

    When the Clinton machine gets through with him, there wont be 10 people in the country that don't hate him..

    They haven't even begun to get after him and his past.



    Queen Hitlery aka POTUS.:eek:



    Jim
     
  14. buster40c

    buster40c Well-Known Member

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    Here is an article today that the CFR is totally backing Hillary for president. Trump will not accept campaign money that comes with an expectation of payback clause. Trump better get some more body guards because the CFR is supposedly saying Trump must be stopped. Hillary should be in jail instead of still in the running for president but oh no here she is still saying what does it matter. Free speech? A marine was at a campaign meeting with BILL as the spokesman when the marine yelled out about the four dead in Benghazi was a result of Hillary's actions. The marine was quickly removed from the meeting. The marine thought he fought for the constitutional right of free speech but evidently old Bill showed him different.
    If Trump gets in the WH I predict his days will be numbered. If Hillary get in the WH then our days will be numbered. Like she said and she could say again "what difference does it make now".
    http://beforeitsnews.com/police-sta...-donald-trump-his-days-are-numbered-2960.html
    Interesting thing about Cruz is that his wife was a member of the CFR and she still is an employee for Goldman Sacks in Houston office. But Cruz talks against the Elite and the big banks control. I really wonder if he isn't another fox dressed in sheep wool.
     
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  15. Ernesto

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    I was officially embarrassed by the childish banter on the last 11th debate and I'm not even republicant.:D
     
  16. buster40c

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    I watched a little bit of the Democrap debate and wondered how anyone could vote for these snake venom peddlers that want you to believe everything should be given away to the less fortunate and the to lazy to work bottom feeders. I have news for those taking the snake oil, nothing that is advertised as being free is actually without a cost. So sad people don't see losing our country is way to high of a cost for so called free stuff.
    I guess again we will have a choice, this crook or that crook.
    I will say this about Trump, he is must be to ignorant to not know he will have to be a puppet or dead wood. In most cases they are the same. The powers that be will not let one man try to undo what has been set in motion. Trump was not let into the power fold but you can bet he knows about it. He has the guts or the stupidity to take them on. The thing about Trump is he doesn't back away from a fight and if they try to take him down he will not go down with a whimper.
    IMO The only way Hillary will be president is if the voting is totally rigged.
     
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  17. havasu

    havasu In the army now..

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    I just read the following article on another forum. Seems pretty legit...

    William J. Bennett, Host of Bill Bennett's Morning in America Show, William J. Bennett, is one of America's most important, influential and respected voices on cultural, political, and education issues. Bill Bennett - what he said:

    Interesting take on Trump

    They will kill him before they let him be president. It could be a Republican or a Democrat that instigates the shutting up of Trump. Don't be surprised if Trump has an accident. Some people are getting very nervous: Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Jon Corzine, to name just a few.

    It's about the unholy dynamics between big government, big business, and big media.They all benefit by the billions of dollars from this partnership, and it's in all of their interests to protect one another. It's one for all and all for one.

    It's a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich, everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We're the patsies. But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media, and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened like never before.

    Donald Trump can self-fund. No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business, and political elite understand that Trump is no joke. He could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.

    It's no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy The Donald. It's because most of the other politicians are part of the a ood old boys club. They talk big, but they won't change a thing. They are all beholden to big-money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, and multinational corporations. . .like Big Pharma or Big Oil.

    Or they are owned lock, stock and barrel by foreigners, like George Soros owns Obama or foreign governments own Hillary with their Clinton Foundation donations.

    These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But there's one man who isn't beholden to anyone. There's one man who doesn't need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Auto Workers, or the teacher's union, or the Service Employees International Union, or the Bar Association to fund his campaign.

    Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump doesn't need anyone's help. That means he doesn't care what the media says. He doesn't care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat to those people. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slave masters.

    Don't you ever wonderwhy the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don't you wonder why John Boehner and Mitch McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don't you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet has never tried to defund Obamacare or Obama's clearly illegal executive action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right? First, I'd guess many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, I believe many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs, or secretly gay, or stealing taxpayer money, the National Security Agency knows everything.

    Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money from his own bank account. The NSA, the SEC, the IRS, and all the other three-letter government agencies are watching every Republican political leader. They surveil everything. Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called racists . . . so they are scared to ever criticize Obama or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment. Fourth , why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you're a good old boy,you've got a $5 million-per-year lobbying job waiting. The big-money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose, they win.

    But Trump doesn't play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice, cozy relationship between big government, big media, and big business. All the rules are out the window if Trump wins the Presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides but not Trump. Remember: Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama's birth certificate. He questioned Obama's college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university. Now, he's doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do. He's questioning our relationship with Mexico; he's questioning why the border is wide open; he's questioning why no wall has been built across the border; he's questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests; he's questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes, yet are not deported; and he's questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad.

    Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick. Good question! I'm certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michelle Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare website. By the way, that tab is now up to $5 billion. Trump will ask if Obamacare's architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. Trump will investigate Obama's widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama's college records. Trump will prosecute Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover up Benghazi before the election. How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election?

    Obama, the multinational corporations, and the media need to stop Trump. They recognize this could get out of control . If left unchecked, telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Trump could wake a sleeping giant. Trump's election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Trump would dare to prosecute. He will not hesitate. Once Trump gets in and gets a look at the cooked booksand Obama's records, the game is over. The gig is up. The goose is cooked. Holder could wind up in prison. Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bundler Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money. Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails, or for accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State, or for misplacing $6 billion as the head of the State Department, or for lying about Benghazi. The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison.

    Obamacare will be defunded and dismantled. And Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters.

    Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved. That's why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. Yes, it's become open season on Donald Trump. The left and the right are determined to attack his policies, harm his businesses, and, if possible, even keep him out of the coming debates. But they can't silence him. And they sure can't intimidate him. The more they try, the more the public will realize that he's the one telling the truth.
     
  18. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    WOW....Tell me that don't get the wheels turning^^^^

    I believe it.

    All you got to do is open your mind and eyes to see how this is the way our political system works..Pure corruption.

    Id love to see this in the media..

    :cryinglaugh:



    Jim
     
  19. buster40c

    buster40c Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^^^^^Yep you can bet the Donald better use other than government supplied body guards.
    The mass news media will never tell about this because if Trump has an accident like a heart attack on a hunting trip there might be a lot of suspicion. If he mysteriously becomes ill in any way either.
    I really feel the American people have heard enough lies to believe just verbal assaults on him. I don't think they want Trump and Hillary going at it because Hillary would lose on that confrontation.
    I think the powers that be have forgotten how Obama got into the WH. The American people wanted a real change but they got their country almost taken away. People are seeing Trump as perhaps the greater chance of getting our country back from Obama trashing it with his false hope and change.
     
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  20. Ernesto

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    Trump has his hands in the cookie jar like everyone else. Don't kid yourself.

    So now Romney is supposedly reactivating his campaign people.

    Ya'll talk smack about Obama Care but the republicants and insurance companies don't like the most important aspect of it, this guy - as republican is a very happy guy as are hundreds of thousands of Americans who have pre-existing conditions.

    https://www.facebook.com/NowThisNews/videos/1006944839395640/