Best .357 deer load?

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  1. SavageGuy

    SavageGuy Active Member

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    What do you guys load for deer hunting? Hard cast or hollows? Powder? 180s or 158s? Or do you just screw it all and buy buffalo bore? Let me know what you've got!
     
  2. gunslinger669

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    I don't go into the woods alone nowadays, even though stillhunting for deer was a favorite thing to do. a .270 Win would be my gun if I still went. If all I had was a .357 (rifle, not handgun) The cartridge would be 180gr WFNGC over H110. No shots taken over 100 yards.
     
  5. gunslinger669

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    Good call- I'd do that. Definitely flat nose.
     
  6. phideaux

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    Flat nose 180 bullet, for sure,

    And for me, 50 yrds at most for white tail.

    I may try reaching out to 100 yrds for coyote.



    Jim
     
  7. MagBlackhawk

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    Looks like I agree with most on this one.

    180 gr hard cast lead WFNGC & H110 or Win 296 loaded up to absolute MAX.
    Maybe, just maybe a 158 gr JSP, but only maybe and only if I was felling lucky and couldn't find any 180 gr bullets!

    Wouldn't take a shot beyond about 40 ~ 50 yd's.
    Of course you got to load your own. :cool:
     
  8. VThillman

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    Now I'm wondering what the 50 yard limit is about. My 77/357 is certainly accurate enough at 100 yards (it's scoped); do you folks believe that the round is no longer effective at that range?
     
  9. gunslinger669

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    Out of a rifle it's probably good out to 150 yards- bullet energy and placement are critical that far out, though.
     
  10. phideaux

    phideaux Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Energy and velocity of 180gr bullet drops at 100 yrds and past, to the point that I may end up tracking ,to find, my deer for 100s of yards, unless it is a head shot.

    Will it take down an small doe at 100 yrds...? Sure ,
    Will it take down a big buck at 100 yrds.. probably, but I don't want
    take the chance .

    I would limit my range to 100yrds with a 18" rifle, and definitely 50 yrds with 6" handgun.

    Past 100 yrds , I'm using hydrshock cartridge, just to be sure of quick kill.

    Just me.



    Jim
     
  11. Oldhand

    Oldhand AKA Rawhidekid! Lifetime Supporter

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    A handgun is plenty if yardage is kept to what you can place six shots into a pie plate. The 180 grn is the best choice weather hard cast lead or an XTP.
     
  12. MagBlackhawk

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    I was thinking of a handgun when limiting shots to about 50 yd's. I'm just guessing anyway, never hunted with a .357.
     
  13. Oldhand

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    Reason I didn't state yardage is the 357 is a flat shooting round and your distance is limited to how well you can control it.;)
     
  14. gunslinger669

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    Ultimately it's the energy it delivers on impact; distance is irrelevant if you're hunting meat and not paper or steel.
     
  15. SavageGuy

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    Buffalo Bore's 180 gr hard cast brags 1400 fps with 800+ ft-lbs of energy. That's pretty intense. It gives your hand a thrill in a snubby!
     
  16. Oldhand

    Oldhand AKA Rawhidekid! Lifetime Supporter

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    When the 357 first came out it was used to kill everything up to and including Elephant. The rounds were a lot hotter then. Deer are not that hard to kill as long as shots are placed properly. According to the game wardens the weapon of choice of poachers is the 22lr.
     
  17. SavageGuy

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    ^^^^that's interesting! Why can't we load the .357 hot enough to kill elephants these days? Are the guns not strong enough? Blackhawks are pretty solid.....
     
  18. VThillman

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    :D

    Doesn't matter if the gun is solid, when the primers back out.
     
  19. MagBlackhawk

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    Listening to a gun guy on the radio he said it's because we have better ways to test for pressure nowadays and some loads were hotter than they thought.
    That and a bunch of sue happy people with older guns. The ammo makers gotta be very very careful. So, no more .357 elephant hunting I guess......
     
  20. Oldhand

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    The recoil and muzzle flash of the original 357 was to much for many who tried it,(originally was designed with police use in mind). Same problem the 41 mag had.:confused: